Comments on: How to use DIV tags for Layout instead of Tables http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/?utm_source=rss&utm_medium=rss&utm_campaign=how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables Teaching, rebuking, correcting & training in righteous web design. Mon, 26 Sep 2011 02:56:07 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v= By: Tushar Ranjan Mishra http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-4373 Tushar Ranjan Mishra Mon, 10 Aug 2009 10:13:04 +0000 http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables#comment-4373 Hello Sir! I am a bit new to programming, please excuse me for this silly question. But I am a bit confused on how to create multiple rows and colums through the latest tags Can you please write down the same code using tags Tushar Ranjan Mishra Sadyasanata Mishra Aditya Kumar Mishra Sarojini Mishra All I am trying to do is that I create a table layout in which the first Row has two columns while the second row has Only one column Kindly help me out, I know it's avery silly question, But I do't have the answer till now You can send the responce at tushar35314@gmail.com Hello Sir!
I am a bit new to programming, please excuse me for this silly question.
But I am a bit confused on how to create multiple rows and colums through the latest tags
Can you please write down the same code using tags

Tushar Ranjan Mishra
Sadyasanata Mishra

Aditya Kumar Mishra

Sarojini Mishra

All I am trying to do is that I create a table layout in which the first Row has two columns while the second row has Only one column

Kindly help me out, I know it’s avery silly question, But I do’t have the answer till now

You can send the responce at tushar35314@gmail.com

]]> By: Jeffrey http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-2523 Jeffrey Fri, 22 Jul 2005 04:13:27 +0000 http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables#comment-2523 Hi, i was wondering if u can use div tags inside tables??? if it's not possible, is there another way to get the div tags to work just like tables, like adding colspand with div??? Hi, i was wondering if u can use div tags inside tables??? if it’s not possible, is there another way to get the div tags to work just like tables, like adding colspand with div???

]]> By: jeenec http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-2522 jeenec Wed, 08 Jun 2005 13:58:29 +0000 http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables#comment-2522 i want solution: i doing my whole site using div tags. when i restore down my window div is breaking (given in persentage). i want horizontal scrollbar when window restore, i don't want breaking while restore. give me solution for this. i want solution:

i doing my whole site using div tags. when i restore down my window div is breaking (given in persentage). i want horizontal scrollbar when window restore, i don’t want breaking while restore.

give me solution for this.

]]> By: Leonard http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-2521 Leonard Wed, 04 May 2005 07:10:40 +0000 http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables#comment-2521 Great article, and I strongly support it's premise: my site is an all-CSS based production, and all hand-coded. Colin, the final clearing div keeps CSS-created columns from appearing behind a footer, or actually, it keeps the footer from rising to the level of the shortest column. On my site, without such a div, the footer would ocassionally appear just below the main content column, while the nav column extended below it. I learned HTML the "old way", using massive quantities of table and font tags. CSS is far beyond those archaic ways of doing things! Also, make the move to XHTML, which is just a stricter version of HTML4. Great article, and I strongly support it’s premise: my site is an all-CSS based production, and all hand-coded.

Colin, the final clearing div keeps CSS-created columns from appearing behind a footer, or actually, it keeps the footer from rising to the level of the shortest column. On my site, without such a div, the footer would ocassionally appear just below the main content column, while the nav column extended below it.

I learned HTML the “old way”, using massive quantities of table and font tags. CSS is far beyond those archaic ways of doing things! Also, make the move to XHTML, which is just a stricter version of HTML4.

]]> By: Jason http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-2520 Jason Sat, 09 Apr 2005 07:57:56 +0000 http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables#comment-2520 Colin: purpose of the 4th div is as it sounds, to clear the float. you are clearing the float to end it so to speak, otherwise, the text after it will show up next to the third div, and produce unwanted results, whether in IE, FF, etc. anyways, to my comment. one of the main points of using div's rather than tables is semantics and standards. tables were created to display tabular data, thus the name tables. Some people get so zealous over using tables that they basically frame it as being bad no matter what. but that is not the point. adhering to the semantics of your code makes it that much better, and gives your code meaning, rather than hacking it. this all leads to standards, which seems to plague the CS world. any other industry, and you will see standards. look at civil engineering, they have standards on how things should be built. why not the same for CompSci and the Internet? I am very suprised that we have gone this far. If the world did this in other industries, one could only wonder where the world would be today. Half the planes would fall out of the sky because an American plane didn't use the metric system, or whatever. Colin: purpose of the 4th div is as it sounds, to clear the float. you are clearing the float to end it so to speak, otherwise, the text after it will show up next to the third div, and produce unwanted results, whether in IE, FF, etc.

anyways, to my comment. one of the main points of using div’s rather than tables is semantics and standards. tables were created to display tabular data, thus the name tables. Some people get so zealous over using tables that they basically frame it as being bad no matter what. but that is not the point. adhering to the semantics of your code makes it that much better, and gives your code meaning, rather than hacking it. this all leads to standards, which seems to plague the CS world. any other industry, and you will see standards. look at civil engineering, they have standards on how things should be built. why not the same for CompSci and the Internet? I am very suprised that we have gone this far. If the world did this in other industries, one could only wonder where the world would be today. Half the planes would fall out of the sky because an American plane didn’t use the metric system, or whatever.

]]> By: Richard http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-2519 Richard Mon, 04 Apr 2005 13:51:34 +0000 http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables#comment-2519 I've been doing tableless designs for a while now (www.lighthousecc.co.uk) and much prefer it to tables. I never designed much with tables before so I never had the learning curve to reteach myself. To me it makes much more sense to mark up a document using divs etc then it is for tables because I see my pages as made up of seperate sections rather than as one whole thing. Makes sense in my mind anyway! I think the fourth div is to do with a problem with Internet Explorer - sometimes the div's bleed into each other and you have to put in an empty div. You learn this by trying it and getting frustrated! I’ve been doing tableless designs for a while now (www.lighthousecc.co.uk) and much prefer it to tables. I never designed much with tables before so I never had the learning curve to reteach myself. To me it makes much more sense to mark up a document using divs etc then it is for tables because I see my pages as made up of seperate sections rather than as one whole thing. Makes sense in my mind anyway!

I think the fourth div is to do with a problem with Internet Explorer – sometimes the div’s bleed into each other and you have to put in an empty div. You learn this by trying it and getting frustrated!

]]> By: Jayson http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-2518 Jayson Fri, 01 Apr 2005 01:24:34 +0000 http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables#comment-2518 dean, i've been trying to email you, but your email obfuscator doesn't work for me. I have gmail as my default "client" and when I click it it does nothing. dean, i’ve been trying to email you, but your email obfuscator doesn’t work for me. I have gmail as my default “client” and when I click it it does nothing.

]]> By: Will Chatham http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-2517 Will Chatham Thu, 31 Mar 2005 19:15:30 +0000 http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables#comment-2517 Nice explanation. Using tables for layout, while seemingly the 'normal' thing to do for many people and wysiwig editors, was originally a 'hack' that web designers figured out when Netscape introduced the border="0" attribute a bout 10 years ago. Now that CSS support in browsers has become more prevalent and the CSS spec has evolved, people should stop using the 'hacked' method of tables. The benefits of doing so are too numerous to ignore. Nice explanation. Using tables for layout, while seemingly the ‘normal’ thing to do for many people and wysiwig editors, was originally a ‘hack’ that web designers figured out when Netscape introduced the border=”0″ attribute a bout 10 years ago. Now that CSS support in browsers has become more prevalent and the CSS spec has evolved, people should stop using the ‘hacked’ method of tables.

The benefits of doing so are too numerous to ignore.

]]> By: Colin http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-2516 Colin Thu, 31 Mar 2005 16:42:49 +0000 http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables#comment-2516 For those of us who are CSS-newbies, what is the purpose of the fourth DIV, with the clear property set? For those of us who are CSS-newbies, what is the purpose of the fourth DIV, with the clear property set?

]]> By: Don A. Elbourne Jr. http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables/comment-page-1/#comment-2515 Don A. Elbourne Jr. Wed, 30 Mar 2005 16:59:09 +0000 http://healyourchurchwebsite.com/2005/03/30/how-to-use-div-tags-for-layout-instead-of-tables#comment-2515 I think the coolest tableless design I've done was: http://elbourne.org/baptist/dodd/ IMHO it came out looking great, but the geeky thing I did with this site was that I did all the XHTML, divs and all, before I began thinking about how I would lay it out on the page, or style anything. After I had all the XHTML structure and content finished, I went to work on the external CSS. It made for a much cleaner design process and I do all my sites like that now. I think the coolest tableless design I’ve done was: http://elbourne.org/baptist/dodd/ IMHO it came out looking great, but the geeky thing I did with this site was that I did all the XHTML, divs and all, before I began thinking about how I would lay it out on the page, or style anything. After I had all the XHTML structure and content finished, I went to work on the external CSS. It made for a much cleaner design process and I do all my sites like that now.

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